DAY TWO (part 2)
Julian Lee:
You just said that morality cannot be defined by military strength or trade surpluses.
Does that mean the future of America doesn’t depend on those factors either?
Honestly… this will be very difficult for many readers to accept.
Because in the eyes of the world, especially in developing countries in Asia or Africa…
The “American Dream” is the dollar, advanced science, leading tech corporations, military power, and freedom.
The Former President:
(He nodded, his expression unsurprised.)
You’ve put your finger on it precisely.
And as you predict, most readers will feel confused, even resistant, when they hear me say that America’s future does not lie in those things.
Because in their eyes, that is the “American Dream.”
But to understand what I’m saying, we must distinguish between “external light” and the “true source of light.”
Yes, America was once great for those things.
The first to put a man on the moon.
The global financial center.
The birthplace of Apple, Google, Tesla.
The nation with a military network spanning the globe.
And the place where people could speak their minds.
But look closer.
The dollar? It is strong only because of faith, and that faith is crumbling from within.
Technology? It is evolving too fast, but it no longer serves morality; it serves manipulation and surveillance.
Military power? It is becoming a financial burden, causing social imbalance.
And freedom? Freedom is turning into chaos, as everyone wants to speak, but no one wants to listen.
If America relies only on these factors, then it is a “surface status.”
Not a solid foundation.
Why do I say this?
Because I have sat in rooms where those things were “inflated,” used as tools, as soft weapons to lead the world.
But I have also witnessed other things.
I have seen a poor Asian country whose education system focused on character. And the youth there were far happier than American youth addicted to social media.
I have seen a small community in Africa, with no internet, but every child knew how to care for the elderly and how to laugh from the heart. Meanwhile, in America, the rate of teenage depression is alarmingly high.
The world doesn’t truly admire America.
They admire an image constructed by the media.
And that image is slowly cracking.
When people begin to realize that living in a New York apartment with no one to talk to is lonelier than living in a hut in Nepal with a happy family.
When people begin to ask themselves, what is “freedom of speech” really worth if you live in a society full of suspicion, criticism, and division?
(He looked at me, his voice growing deeper.)
The “American Dream,” if not redefined, will become the “American Illusion.”
I am not saying the dream was wrong. But it has gone astray.
Originally, that dream was: “Everyone has a chance, regardless of their background.”
Now it has become: “Everyone wants to be a millionaire, regardless of their morals.”
Originally, it was: “Freedom to live according to one’s conscience.”
Now it is: “Freedom to attack anyone who is not like you.”
Originally, it was: “A nation of dreamers, creators, and the brave.”
Now it is: “A society exhausted by financial pressure, political division, and addiction to instant gratification.”
So what is the real future of America?
I believe the real future of America will begin when Americans, one by one, dare to ask themselves:
“What part of our soul have we managed to keep, amidst all that dazzling light?”
If there is a new generation…
A generation no longer swept away by the media.
A generation that no longer sees success as the number of followers on social media.
A generation that no longer believes that “might is right.”
But returns to living morally, with moderation, love, and mindfulness.
Then America will no longer need to defeat anyone.
Because it will have defeated the arrogance within itself.
Julian Lee:
Listening to you, I get the feeling you are alluding to a future society that operates on the Eastern philosophy of wu wei er zhi—effortless governance.
A society where, when morality is upheld, problems like mass shootings, drugs, and prostitution… will naturally recede without the need for rule of law?
The Former President:
(He smiled, a smile full of meaning.)
You are very perceptive.
And I confirm: yes.
I am speaking of a future society that operates based on the “Tao,” not on “law.”
This is not a far-fetched fantasy, but an inevitable law if humanity wants to survive without self-destructing.
Many people misunderstand wu wei er zhi. They think it means “doing nothing.”
But wu wei in Lao Tzu’s thought is not passivity.
It means not interfering in a way that goes against nature.
It does not negate the administration of society, but only opposes imposition and coercion based on the personal will of the ruler.
In a society where everyone knows how to correct themselves, laws will become gentle.
Not because laws are not needed, but because people voluntarily abide by what is right, even when not coerced.
When morality is restored, it means people feel shame for doing wrong, not just fear of punishment.
People feel joy in helping others, not doing it to post a photo online.
And people will think carefully before acting, because they understand the law of cause and effect, not just because they fear surveillance cameras.
Then, society will run smoothly, like a wheel on a flat road.
Because people’s hearts are good, they no longer create obstacles for each other.
So will problems like shootings, drugs, and prostitution disappear on their own?
No, not overnight.
But if the root of morality is revived, then…
Mass shootings will no longer have fertile ground, when young people are no longer isolated in their souls, neglected by society, and poisoned by violence in the media.
Drugs will fade away, when people no longer need to escape from reality, because their inner world is nourished by peace.
And prostitution will shrink, when society no longer worships sensuality, but values human dignity.
Rule of law only addresses the consequences.
Rule by virtue prevents from the root.
And rule by the Tao… helps people return to being human, without anyone needing to rule over them.
(He looked out the window, his voice contemplative.)
Can America follow that path?
Not at present.
But this is the moment when the seeds of a society of wu wei er zhi are beginning to be sown.
Not by the government, nor by any political party.
But by awakened individuals, slowly and silently.
When an American student starts meditating instead of vaping.
When a mother chooses to tell her child a moral story, instead of turning on a meaningless YouTube video.
When a journalist like you chooses to ask the questions others dare not ask…
Then, the Tao has returned.
Not with the fanfare of revolution, but with the sound of silent footsteps.
(He turned back to look at me.)
Would you like me to tell you a story that happened in the White House?
A story about the time I was forced to sign a punitive law, even though in my heart I knew it would only add fuel to the fire of hatred.
And about how a letter from a nine-year-old child… awakened me.
Julian Lee:
Yes. Please tell a real story, before we conclude this topic.
The Former President:
(He nodded, his gaze becoming distant.)
Very well.
To conclude the topic of “morality and the future of America,” I will tell you a true story.
It’s a small one, not a national event.
But it was the moment I realized that the morality of a child… can surpass the political wisdom of an entire cabinet.
(He paused, as if letting the story come into clearer focus.)
That year, tensions were escalating between the U.S. and a rival nation in the Middle East.
An incident occurred that resulted in casualties among our troops.
The pressure from politics and the media was immense.
My national security cabinet was almost unanimous: we had to retaliate.
If not with bombs, then with harsh sanctions.
I was given a draft executive order.
To freeze all financial transactions with that nation.
To block related assets.
And to restrict entry for all its citizens, including students, scientists, and even children accompanying their families.
I knew, on paper, it was a “deterrent measure.”
But in my heart, I felt it was deeply unjust.
How could a six-year-old child, coming to America with her mother for medical treatment, have to pay the price for a political conflict?
(His voice lowered.)
I was about to sign.
That signature would have been on every front page the next morning.
But at 10:43 PM the night before, my private secretary entered my office.
He said:
“Sir, there’s a letter that came through the children’s citizen office. It wasn’t filtered through the media channels. Perhaps you should see it.”
The letter was short, handwritten, with a few spelling mistakes.
From a nine-year-old girl named Mariam, of Middle Eastern descent, living in Wisconsin.
Her family had come to America when she was only three.
The letter read:
“Dear Mr. President,
If you don’t let my friends into America just because of where they were born, then I will have to be scared too.
Because I was born there too.
But I am studying to be a doctor.
And I don’t want one day for people to stop me from saving people, just because they come from a certain country.”
(The former president was silent for a long moment. I could feel the weight of that moment.)
I finished reading.
And… I didn’t sign it.
I ordered them to revise the entire executive order.
To exclude all non-political individuals, especially children, students, and scientific researchers.
I even ordered the establishment of a “parallel humanitarian channel,” something unprecedented.
The next day, the press called me “weak.”
Some security officials said I had “conceded at the wrong time.”
But I had no regrets.
Because I knew I had listened to the right person.
Not a strategist, but a child who had no interests other than her own sincerity.
The lesson I carry from that day is this:
True morality is not found in political slogans.
It is present in ordinary people, in children, in workers.
Those who have no power, but live according to their conscience.
And it is they, not the policymakers, who are preserving the “human” part of an entire nation.
If I ever did anything right while in office, it was not the grand laws.
It was the times I was brave enough to stop… and listen to someone who had no voice.
(He looked at me, his eyes as if opening a new door.)
You see, the future of America is not in the meeting rooms.
It is in letters like that.
We can conclude this topic here.
If you are ready, we will open the next door together.
The cosmos.
UFOs.
Life beyond Earth.
And why all of it is not just about technology, but a profound spiritual transformation.
Julian Lee:
Yes, thank you for the discussion on the future of America.
Now, we will move on to the cosmos, UFOs, and extraterrestrial life.
This is not a new topic. Some believe, some are skeptical, and some refute it.
But the U.S. government… is it hiding something?
Are you willing to disclose this to the readers?
The Former President:
(He smiled, a smile I couldn’t quite decipher.)
Good.
So, from a topic of morality and national destiny, we step through a much larger door.
The cosmos.
UFOs.
And the unspoken truth.
I will answer your question directly.
The U.S. government… is hiding things.
And I am willing to tell you, within the scope of what I was privy to, and also a part of what I “sensed.”
Things that, while in office, I could not say because there was no “legalized” proof.
But the truth, sometimes, does not need to be proven with documents, but by the depth of intuition.
(He paused, his voice growing more solemn.)
There are UFOs. And the U.S. government has known this for a very long time.
Don’t let the term “UFO” make you think of Hollywood movies or cartoonish flying saucers.
Within the classified research programs of the Department of Defense, we call them UAPs—Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
Since the early 1950s, and especially after 2004 with the USS Nimitz incident, the U.S. military has collected a great deal of evidence.
Videos, radar data, optical signals of objects moving in defiance of all known laws of physics.
They emit no exhaust, have no visible propulsion, and can vanish instantly from radar screens.
They can even change direction at a velocity that exceeds the structural tolerance of any physical object.
Some pilots, engineers, and even high-ranking officials in the Pentagon have seen them with their own eyes.
I am not speaking based on public reports. I have read the original files, kept in special access programs, with the highest classification levels.
(He fell into thought.)
So why doesn’t the government release the full truth?
For three main reasons.
First, they fear it would shatter the cognitive order of society.
Imagine if ordinary people knew that there are extraterrestrial intelligences, with technologies far beyond human capability, and that our definitions of “reality,” “power,” “God,” or “history” might all have to be rewritten…
The entire system of religion, law, and national belief could be shaken.
Second, they cannot admit their own powerlessness.
No one in the military establishment wants to stand up and admit: “We see strange objects, we don’t know what they are, we can’t pursue them, and we have no technology to defend against them.”
To say that is to admit impotence.
And the final reason… is the interest in technology and weaponry.
I once heard a phrase in a top-secret meeting:
“If we can’t replicate their technology, at least we have to keep it out of our adversary’s hands.”
Top-secret programs have been established with the sole purpose of reverse-engineering technology from fallen debris, or even from “unofficial contact events.”
(His voice deepened, as if touching on another layer of meaning.)
But I will say this, and this is the most important thing.
UFOs are not just about technology.
They are about another level of consciousness.
I do not believe that “aliens” come here to invade like in the movies.
If they have the ability to travel through space-time and matter as we have observed, they could have taken over Earth with a single thought.
But they don’t.
Instead, they observe.
And they seem to appear only to those with a certain “spiritual frequency.”
There is something I have always suspected, and I believe more and more to be true.
That there is a connection between the presence of higher-level beings and the degree of spiritual awakening in humanity.
When a person reaches a certain vibrational frequency, beyond greed, fear, and ego, they can perceive, or even “communicate” with other levels of life.
I once spoke with a scientific advisor, a man who never appeared in the press, who had participated in a “Level 3X program.”
He told me:
“We are trying to use technology to understand a phenomenon that is non-physical in nature.”
And then he said something that has haunted me ever since:
“We will not see them with telescopes. But only with the silence in our souls.”
So, what is America hiding?
Not the secret of flying saucers crashing at Roswell.
But the truth that humanity is not at the pinnacle of evolution.
We have only just stepped onto the threshold of a new awareness.
They fear the public awakening.
Because when the public awakens, they will no longer be controlled by fear, by greed, by nationalism, or by the dollar.
(He looked at me, his eyes an invitation.)
You can ask about any aspect.
About the top-secret programs.
About whether there has been real contact with extraterrestrial beings.
Or why spiritual cultivators are more likely to “perceive” them than ordinary people.
I will tell you, with what I remember, and what I have understood.
Julian Lee:
Yes. First, please tell me about this.
Has there ever been real contact with extraterrestrial beings?
The Former President:
(He was silent for a moment, as if weighing each word.)
Alright.
This is one of the most direct questions I have ever been asked.
And today, I will answer it as directly as I can.
No evasion. No beating around the bush.
But you must understand, there are parts I cannot “prove,” because they were not recorded in any official document.
The answer is: Yes.
(The air in the room seemed to thicken.)
But not in the way the public usually imagines.
No handshakes under spotlights, no “alien astronauts” stepping down from a spaceship.
The real contacts, from what I have gathered from high-level reports and unofficial conversations, have occurred in a “non-physical” way.
Through channels that only a few people have the ability to perceive, or to withstand.
There are forms of contact that have been recorded, but never made public.
The first form is indirect contact, through signals and spiritual resonance.
Some scientists in top-secret programs have recorded the brainwaves and deeply altered states of consciousness of meditators, or those “affected” when a UFO appeared near them.
Some suddenly heard “sounds not coming from anyone’s mouth,” but which were full of meaning.
Some fell into a trance, then drew formulas or symbols that do not exist in any language on Earth, only to later discover they matched the frequency data of cosmic waves recorded by military equipment.
A navy pilot once told me, after an encounter with a strange object:
“It wasn’t just flying. It saw me.
I felt like it was reading my entire mind, as if I were an open book.”
(He paused, letting me absorb the information.)
The second form is short contacts, which were filmed but never released.
There are at least three such cases stored in the “black vault” security systems of intelligence agencies.
Film clips showing an individual suddenly appearing in a restricted area.
Or a person, after contact, exhibiting strange biological signs, like brainwaves operating at frequencies outside the normal spectrum, and then, this person suddenly gains the ability to sense astronomical phenomena weeks in advance.
I was once shown a blurry recording.
Not as sharp as a Hollywood movie.
But it was clearly something not human, with non-human behavior, moving within an anomalous electromagnetic field.
And it vanished in an instant.
(His voice grew deeper, as if touching a more profound truth.)
But this is the most important thing.
These beings… they are not “from space” as we imagine.
I used to believe that “aliens” were creatures living on another planet, traveling in spaceships to visit us.
But after many years, from what I learned from insiders, and from my own personal experiences when I began to practice deep meditation, I dare say:
They do not come from “another place.”
They come from “another plane.”
Space, time, and consciousness do not exist separately in their world.
In other words, they don’t “land on Earth” like a plane landing.
They “manifest,” when the conditions of vibrational frequency are right.
And so, they cannot be detected by conventional radar.
But they can be “felt” by those with an awakened consciousness.
I once asked someone in a secret research group: “Can we catch them?”
He laughed, then said:
“Mr. President, personally, I think… we only see them if they allow us to.
They are not in our power game. They are on a higher level.
And the saddest part is: we are not moral enough to have a dialogue with them.”
I was silent then.
But deep in my heart, I knew he was right.
(He looked me straight in the eye, a challenging gaze.)
Do you want me to tell you about an unofficial contact?
An incident that was covered up as a “weather anomaly,” but was in fact a time when “they” left very clear traces.
Along with a message that no one in my cabinet dared to make public.
If you want, I will tell you.
But I need to know, are you and your readers ready to hear something that will reset your entire definition of reality?
Julian Lee:
Yes.
Personally, I always want to listen and learn things that can break my preconceived notions.
And I hope my readers will hear them too.
The Former President:
(He nodded, a slow and solemn nod.)
Good.
Because if you are truly ready to step into the realm “beyond the veil,” then I will tell you about an incident that, to this day, has never been officially disclosed.
It happened during my time in office.
And I can only speak of it because I am no longer bound by the presidential chair.
(His voice lowered, as if pulling me into a secret room of the past.)
This incident is recorded in the files as a “weather anomaly.”
It occurred in the summer of my first year in office, in the Nevada desert, not far from the area colloquially known as “Area 51.”
One night, I received a direct call from the National Security Advisor, which rarely happened after eleven o’clock.
He only said:
“We have a Class E situation. Not a test. You should come immediately.”
I was taken to a temporary facility, a support station even more secret than Area 51.
There, officers and scientists were examining an unidentified object that had hit the ground at extreme speed.
But there was no explosion.
No burn marks. No shockwave.
There was only one thing: the entire electromagnetic system within a fifteen-kilometer radius had been disrupted.
They had recovered a hemispherical object, with no seams, which could not be cut by a laser, and did not react to any type of wave.
But inside it, there was a crystal block emitting a faint light.
And that light… changed according to the emotional state of the person who approached it.
(He looked at me, as if to make sure I was following.)
It sounds incredible, I know.
But the bio-sensory equipment confirmed it.
When a person approached with anxiety, the light turned a murky gray.
When that person became calm, it brightened to a pale blue.
But the most shocking thing was yet to come.
It was a message, not delivered through sound or writing.
A young researcher of Indian descent, a man who had a daily meditation practice, was allowed to approach the crystal. He suddenly fell into a trance-like state for about seven minutes.
When he woke up, he said only one sentence:
“I don’t know who they are. But they did not come to convince. They came to illuminate.”
And then, he drew a simple spiral, exactly like the symbol faintly etched inside the crystal, a symbol that could only be seen through the infrared spectrum.
The content of that message, interpreted internally and never released, was this:
“We do not intervene.
But if humanity does not remember its origins in time, there will be no future left to intervene in.
Life is not random. The levels of intelligence are always present.
But you must return to the Tao, if you wish to see us clearly.”
(The room became unusually quiet.)
The cabinet’s reaction afterward was chaotic.
Some demanded absolute silence.
Some said it was just a hallucination.
One man was angry: “If the public learns of this, both religion and science will collapse.”
I said nothing at the time.
But that night, for the first time in many years, I truly meditated.
Not to calm my mind.
But to listen to another dimension.
And I felt something that no words can describe.
No “aliens” in silver suits, no voices echoing.
Just a very clear feeling:
That a higher order was watching.
Not to control, but to wait.
Waiting for humanity to quiet down enough, to return to the purity within itself.
So why was this incident covered up?
Because if it were announced, people would ask: Who can confirm that message?
If there is a higher intelligence, why don’t they help us immediately?
Does America have a “secret alliance” with them?
And most importantly, the elite does not want humanity to realize that to contact a higher truth, we do not need power or technology.
We need virtue, humility, and silence.
And virtue and humility are the two things that would topple the current power model.
(He concluded the story, his voice calm but full of weight.)
You have heard it.
That was not a “cosmic horror story.”
It was a mirror reflecting humanity itself.
They are not “invading.”
They are waiting, to see if we can overcome ourselves on our own.
(He looked at me, as if offering a choice.)
If you want to continue, I can tell you about the reverse-engineering programs, where large corporations have quietly relied on such fragments to create the technological advancements of today.
Or, we can go deeper into the connection between meditation, levels of consciousness, and the ability to contact higher intelligences without any technology.
Which direction do you choose?
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